We Have to Pass it to See What's in it

I've often wondered why Nancy Pelosi would say such a thing. She should have had enough foresight to realize that statement would bite her in the ass.

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My original thought process on this was that not many politicians really know everything in the bills that are submitted to a vote. In a nutshell, bills are introduced and sent to committee. The committee hashes it out and sends a final version to the floor. Representatives and Senators have their aides and researches pick it apart and advise them on the bill. If it comes up for a floor vote, they vote yea or nay, based on what they have been told is in the bill and the recommendations of their staffs. If the House and Senate versions differ, then it goes to conference committe, which produces a compromise bill that comes up for a vote in both houses of Congress. So, no, I don't think our elected representatives know what's in every bill.

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But I decided to do some research. Pelosi was speaking to a group (I don't remember who and I'm not inclined to go searching for it again) about the PPACA. She was speaking of all the rumors about what would happen and many of those were falsehoods, such as death panels, prices being fixed, limits on what services would be allowed, etc. Her statement that "We have to pass it to see what's in it" was a reference to the fact that the bill had not been passed and people didn't know what they were talking about when they were claiming all kinds of nonsense about it. At the time, the Senate had not passed a final version, so she did not know exactly what it would ultimately look like.To paraphrase her true intent, she was telling the group to whom she speaking that, until the bill is passed, you can't know what's in it and to ignore all the rumors flying around until it was passed.

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Comments

  1. 29A

    That’s the way I understand it, but it doesn’t stop the right from harping on it.

    November 10, 2013
  2. morningafter

    That’s hilarious! It’s like trying to justify and explain Obama saying, “If you like your plan, you can keep it, period!”

    November 11, 2013
    1. deaconjim

      Denial of the truth when it’s right in front of you is a serious problem. You should look into getting some help for that. Do the research and watch the video or you just repeat what you hear on Fox.

      November 11, 2013
      1. morningafter

        You guys are truly hopeless. Open up your minds and quit assuming that anyone who disagrees with you only watches Fox. But it really doesn’t matter because you’re brainwashed anyway. Also, that last sentence of your post is nothing but conjecture.

        November 11, 2013
        1. deaconjim

          So please tell us where she was and to whom she was speaking when she said it.

          November 11, 2013
          1. morningafter
            Okay, it was at the Legislative Conference for the National Association of Counties in March 2010.

            November 11, 2013
            1. deaconjim

              And her exact words were: “But we have to pass the bill so that you can find out what’s in it, away from the fog of controversy.” In no way does that statement indicate she or any other Democrat were unaware of what was in the bill before it passed. It also supports the last sentence of my post, where I paraphrased what she meant by the statement.

              November 12, 2013
          2. morningafter

            Looks like I did my research after all!!!

            November 11, 2013
            1. deaconjim

              But you still deny the truth.

              November 12, 2013
        2. morningafter

          What’s right in front of my eyes is a huge hot mess called Obamacare or ACA. and if you actually think that things are going okay with this law then YOU are the one ignoring facts!

          November 11, 2013
          1. deaconjim

            Obamacare is not perfect, in fact, it’s far from it, but it’s the foundation for an overhaul of the healthcare system in the USA that’s long overdue. Instead of vilifying the law and the website and their President, conservatives would do well by forming a committe from both houses of Congress and analyzing every detail of the PPACA, keeping the good parts and improving those parts that are not so good.

            November 12, 2013
    2. morningafter

      And those numbers are growing and expected to continue to grow throughout next year!

      November 11, 2013